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i mean, bill clinton went through -- >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think he's being gracious now. i think maybe buyer's remorse, some people once you get into the details of this whacky situation, they're thinking maybe he should have stuck with him, maybe everything moved too fast, maybe he's -- he did what he did but maybe he's the victim -- >> before you jump to that, and i am -- the older i get the more leaning i get towards these -- >> meaning -- >> if it got out he had this affair with the reporter and also got out that the president knowing about it had kept him in office, what would that have been like? >> that would have been bad. the only way you can do this is if you make a clean breast of it, say you'
i mean, bill clinton went through -- >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think...
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president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so who on the right would be the biggest opponent? would it be a christie or rubio? >> those are certainly two candidates that could come forward in 10 t 2016. marco rubio saying his trip has nothing to do with 2016. nobody other than marco rubio believing that. you have to think about bobby jindal, the governor of louisiana, susanna martinez has gained a lot of interest among republicans lately. particularly after they were hammered with the latino vote in the last election. so there are a lot of republicans who could end up running. there will be some effort in the r
president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so...
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the hurricane sandy thing, if bill clinton really thinks that, bill clinton is wrong. that is now how president obama won. >> i think you hit on something in the opening. he must be on drugs. there's no way that bill clinton and he had that conversation. what i'm worried about, i'm hearing let's change our words. what's the right thing we have to say, without the understanding it's your policy. it's also that you don't make people feel welcome in your party when you talk about people as aliens or when you say those people and the free stuff and decide we don't have to talk to them and ask them for their vote or show them respect that. is a fundamentally deeper problem this republican party has right now. >> janet and karen, thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, four more years. what to expect in president obama's second term from the author of "barack obama, the story." >>> and in the "rewrite," it's not about the sex. it's about the judgment of david petraeus. but in talking about the cia director's very bad judgment, i am going to have t
the hurricane sandy thing, if bill clinton really thinks that, bill clinton is wrong. that is now how president obama won. >> i think you hit on something in the opening. he must be on drugs. there's no way that bill clinton and he had that conversation. what i'm worried about, i'm hearing let's change our words. what's the right thing we have to say, without the understanding it's your policy. it's also that you don't make people feel welcome in your party when you talk about people as...
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you talk about bringing bill clinton back in, the master of arithmetic. what did president obama call him? the master of how to count things or whatever. then you have the loser who had some interesting ideas about getting rid of deductions it seems. where do you see the real plus of these two fellows coming in on this deal and helping the president cut a deal? >> chris, the real theme of the piece, my long time colleague nelson cunningham and i wrote, we have to have all hands on deck to solve these issues that are clearly before us. they're solvable but not without a sense of purpose and unity. basically you have president clinton who has the credibility of balancing the budget and then leaving a surplus. that's a pretty strong record to stand on and a lot of knowledge and experience. secondly, you hit it, he is -- he does do arithmetic well. he's also a pretty good salesman, pretty good persuader. i think you have those two great attributes with the former president. and governor romney, he's a problem solver, he's a business person. he knows how to re
you talk about bringing bill clinton back in, the master of arithmetic. what did president obama call him? the master of how to count things or whatever. then you have the loser who had some interesting ideas about getting rid of deductions it seems. where do you see the real plus of these two fellows coming in on this deal and helping the president cut a deal? >> chris, the real theme of the piece, my long time colleague nelson cunningham and i wrote, we have to have all hands on deck to...
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two winning campaign, bill clinton, 62%. and then '92, 53%. unmarried white women, i had a pollster tell me this was the most fluid part of the electorate. unmarried white women, it isn't just single women under the age of 40. don't just think there, you're also talking widows. so there's a good chuck of these folks. the president won them by six points. and they were 14% of the electorate. yes, he won them by more, 19, but they were 13% of the electorate. but this is perhaps the most important swing voting group that you had to look at. i can tell you in senate race after senate race, the number that would fluctuate more than independents was unmarried white women. is it a voting group we should continue to follow, continue to track. i encourage more pollsters. not all pollsters do single and married enough in their factuals to get the you cross-tabs. this marriage gap is an important track to be tracking but in particular, married and gender thrown in to one. autopsy 2012, we will continue to do it throughout the rest of the year. >>> invest
two winning campaign, bill clinton, 62%. and then '92, 53%. unmarried white women, i had a pollster tell me this was the most fluid part of the electorate. unmarried white women, it isn't just single women under the age of 40. don't just think there, you're also talking widows. so there's a good chuck of these folks. the president won them by six points. and they were 14% of the electorate. yes, he won them by more, 19, but they were 13% of the electorate. but this is perhaps the most important...
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as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady. michelle obama didn't want to wait until january to watch the third season of "downton abbey" so it sent dvds to the white house. the three of us are -- with hands on hips, where's ours? where's ours? >> if you read only one thing this morning, today's must read is courtesy of the national constitution center, which argues in a fascinating article why the petraeus affair has nothing on the nation's first sex scandal, hint, it included a duel and it's up on our facebook page alt facebook/jansingco. borm the naturally sweet monk fruit, something this delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker
as bill clinton might say, it's just arithmetic. >> john boehner is making his bid for speaker of the house official in eye letter sent to his colleagues he says his priorities are taking on the president and democrats in the senate. he calls house republicans the last line of defense. mitch mcconnell is already thinking about 2014. the day after the election he held a fund-raiser for 1,000 bucks a person you could attend the reception. and here's a great perk about being first lady....
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>> well, you know, bill clinton was a troubleshooter for barack obama during the presidential contest, and he certainly knows his dealings in that really troubling, very difficult terrain of middle east politics. i would say he might be able to help out and negotiate a cease-fire, but actually completely solving the whole middle east process in conflict there with something he was unable to do as president. it's been a thorny issue for lots of presidents, and you understand why that world is so volatile and has repercussions throughout the entire globe. >> mark, back to first read and some of the assessment. obviously, the asap notion is an obvious one. we know that the white house and president talking with both morsi and netanyahu today. you heard -- i don't know it if you heard, you heard jim frederick's assessment that the white house has been really hands-off here. what's behind that strategy? >> it shows you how tricky of a terrain it is right now for the white house always to be leaning going guard. jim frederick mentioned that leading from behind, which was coined in a new yor
>> well, you know, bill clinton was a troubleshooter for barack obama during the presidential contest, and he certainly knows his dealings in that really troubling, very difficult terrain of middle east politics. i would say he might be able to help out and negotiate a cease-fire, but actually completely solving the whole middle east process in conflict there with something he was unable to do as president. it's been a thorny issue for lots of presidents, and you understand why that world...
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also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table when he suggested that the president of the united states might have had prior knowledge before the election of what was going on with david petraeus, that eric holder was aware of it, the attorney general, and that it's not credible that eric holder would not have told the president. this will raise a lot of questions. holder will be called to attention on the hill. the other thing is the disconnect between what the senators believe, which was that there was not an intelligence failure but there was certainly a failure then to follow up. did the state department, why did the state department not increase security, n
also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table...
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said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house officials want to get things done. he told the "des moines register" in an interview he thought was going to be held as an off the record interview, wanted to do something big on immigration. clearing the deck of these investigations as you said and this our aura of scandal is critical to have the power on capitol hill to make tough decisions. >> rudy giuliani said before this election and says it in a kind of joshing way, that he doesn't want a second term, he wants a second chance. i thought that was accurate. he does want a second chance and the country needs for him t
said i represent the 57% of americans who did not vote for bill clinton. paul ryan gave an interview saying he didn't believe that president obama has a mandate because he didn't win both congresses. you have to say eisenhower, nixon, reagan, other presidents substantially re-elected or elected didn't have mandates themselves. >> tom brokaw, in this second term as the president begins to decide how to shape his policies, be he according to all that have talked to him and other white house...
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find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set to touch down in cambodia, the second of two asian nations that no sitting u.s. president has visited before. first myanmar, a country rapid by transitioning from years of brutal military rule. president obama met with government officials as well as opposition leader aung san suu kyi who spent decades under house arrest and subsequent election to parliament. myanmar, also known as burma, has sweeping change to renewed focus on tackling poverty and political oppression. speaking in thailand president obama brushed off criticism that his trip may have been premature. >> this is not an endorsement of the burmese government, this is an acknowledgment that there's a process underway insid
find someone even as high ranking, frankly, as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he'd hate me for saying that, but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker, but we have a lot of work to do to regain some credibility because we're crumbling all over the middle east. >>> any moment now president obama is set to touch down in cambodia, the second of two asian nations that no sitting u.s....
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we learn of a different thomas jefferson here, somebody that almost, like, bill clinton. se seriously. you said just craved affection, wanted everybody to love him. you said he flirted with men and women alike. what do you mean? >> well, he was a is seducer. he was a vote getter. he had to -- you run campaigns. we all know people who have to win the heart and mind. >> portray him as a cold, detached man. >> margaret smith, the wife of the great republican editor in washington at the time, is sitting and we forget this because there weren't that many images around, she didn't know what jefferson looked like and a morning caller comes in. this very charming man and just telling stories and being brilliant and all of a sudden her husband walks in, mr. jefferson, i'm sorry i'm late. and her head explodes because she had been raised in this federalist family, taught this man was a great threat. >> she blushes and can't even speak. >> she has fallen -- one definition of charm is how do you make people fall in love with you without knowing why and jefferson had that. >> i never
we learn of a different thomas jefferson here, somebody that almost, like, bill clinton. se seriously. you said just craved affection, wanted everybody to love him. you said he flirted with men and women alike. what do you mean? >> well, he was a is seducer. he was a vote getter. he had to -- you run campaigns. we all know people who have to win the heart and mind. >> portray him as a cold, detached man. >> margaret smith, the wife of the great republican editor in washington...
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on taxes it's as bill clinton said. it's simple math. spending is at 24% of gdp. taxes are at about 15% of gdp right now. even the most conservative member of congress only proposes to bring spending down to say 20% or even 19% of gdp. you still have a 4% to 5% gap. that represents hundreds of billions of dollars that has to be made up. even if you assume growth could get back to 3%, that won't make up the gap. so taxes have to be on the table. there's no way to get around that if you want to actually deal with the fiscal crisis that we have. and what is most heartening to me is to learn today that the president is willing to take this show on the road, to go out into the states and make the case and actually reinforce that mandate he has and make republicans realize that those that want to work with him will be rewarded as people who are trying to solve people, those that want to obstruct will pay a political praice that they will feel at election time. >> his opening act has got to be rick ross. these haters are not going to hold me back. some of the conservativ
on taxes it's as bill clinton said. it's simple math. spending is at 24% of gdp. taxes are at about 15% of gdp right now. even the most conservative member of congress only proposes to bring spending down to say 20% or even 19% of gdp. you still have a 4% to 5% gap. that represents hundreds of billions of dollars that has to be made up. even if you assume growth could get back to 3%, that won't make up the gap. so taxes have to be on the table. there's no way to get around that if you want to...
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senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas militant. according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a wa
senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas...
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. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there is a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday. compare what he said about susan rice yesterday with what he said about another foreign policy expert, in this case condoleezza rice, back in 2005. here is mccain on susan rice. take a listen. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> okay. mortal sin, deal breaker, end of her career because john mccain said she had gotten the wrong brief and delivered the wrong brief. however, mccain had a very different reaction back in 2005 when condoleezza rice was n
. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there is a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday. compare what he...
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. >> i find someone even as high-ranking, frankly, as normer president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. >> so, congresswoman, not to dismiss the experience of a former president but is it the secretary of state, secretary clinton, the proper choice to go is. our secretary of state is -- i think president clinton would be the first to agree that secretary clinton is absolutely the right person at the right time to help make sure we can bring these hostilities to a conclusion and bring the two sides back to the table to begin to stop launching rockets into southern israel, launching rockets that and to recognize israel's right to exist. leader everything to avoid answering a question directly put which was will hamas, which is a terrorist ly operates as one, recognize can netanyahu. israel's right to exist needs to be voiced by its neighbors? >> yes, yes. consistently conditions down, the palestinians table ready to recogn
. >> i find someone even as high-ranking, frankly, as normer president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. >> so, congresswoman, not to dismiss the experience of a former president but is it the secretary of state, secretary clinton, the proper choice to go is. our secretary of state is -- i think president clinton would...
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in 1996, bill clinton won big. you know who else won big? me. when i went back in january of 1997, was i willing to work any more after bill clinton won the election than before? no. a lot of republicans that won an election in the house as well. i just say that to say the president can go ahead -- and to follow up on david, he could do brinkmanship if he wants. a lot of these guys have spent the last couple years in the house standing up to the president going after him aggressively. he got re-elected. >> and the government's organized the same way. >> yes. if the president wants to engage in brinksmanship, he can. >> the message they took from their own re-election in their district was go back to washington and fight the president. don't cooperate with what he wants to do. >> right. >> all right, josh -- >> that's what i'm saying, brinksmanship seems to be short-sighted right now. i think instead of flying all across the country and spending taxpayer dollars on air force one and your security detail, could you just try inviting people over to
in 1996, bill clinton won big. you know who else won big? me. when i went back in january of 1997, was i willing to work any more after bill clinton won the election than before? no. a lot of republicans that won an election in the house as well. i just say that to say the president can go ahead -- and to follow up on david, he could do brinkmanship if he wants. a lot of these guys have spent the last couple years in the house standing up to the president going after him aggressively. he got...
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clinton tax rates. so if republicans in the house succeed in preventing anything from happening this time something will actually happen and everyone's tax rates will go up. joining me justin reuben and ezra klein. ezra, i want to start with you on something. justin was in the room with the president today, i am going to torture him in a second to get what the president said. we have what's being treated as breaking news tonight by some of the newspapers that the president's tax revenue target in going forward is 1.6 trillion. it is something he said before when he said his opening position negotiating this is his past budget position. but what is the emphasis now on the 1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue due to where the tax discussions are going to go. >> they are looking for 1.6 trillion. but people are missing what's important about the white house position. what the white house is saying and this matters for these negotiations john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it incl
clinton tax rates. so if republicans in the house succeed in preventing anything from happening this time something will actually happen and everyone's tax rates will go up. joining me justin reuben and ezra klein. ezra, i want to start with you on something. justin was in the room with the president today, i am going to torture him in a second to get what the president said. we have what's being treated as breaking news tonight by some of the newspapers that the president's tax revenue target...
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so in that sense hillary clinton certainly fit the bill for the job, and they're hoping that susan rice would fit the bill for the job. keep in mind these five interviews she did on the morning shows were essentially a tryout for her. she was trying to prove herself to the president, and in that sense, as you were saying earlier, she sort of stuck to the talking points. and i know it's unfair to get pilloried for sticking to the talking point, but do you want someone who will think for themselves or do you want someone -- she was trying to show she would be a good soldier and do what you wanted her to do, and she did that and that got her into a lot of trouble. if she thought perhaps a little more independently, questioned the talking points, read the intelligence herself, she might have answered these questions differently or spoken differently on the shows. >> richard, you disagree. you say she would be an autonomous member of the cabinet, she would be a separate principal with her own stature, would not be someone who would do something that tom donnelly would send over the notes and
so in that sense hillary clinton certainly fit the bill for the job, and they're hoping that susan rice would fit the bill for the job. keep in mind these five interviews she did on the morning shows were essentially a tryout for her. she was trying to prove herself to the president, and in that sense, as you were saying earlier, she sort of stuck to the talking points. and i know it's unfair to get pilloried for sticking to the talking point, but do you want someone who will think for...
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as bill clinton would say, it's arithmetic. nothing is going to get done unless we find a way to work together. and i'll tell you, the public has just had it. well, you know, the approval rating of congress is in single digits. it's pretty awful. and it's all about, in my view, the inability to simply sit down and solve some of these problems. >> senator, quick question, brian sullivan from cnbc here. would you support a fiscal cliff resolution on taxes that did not involve an elevation of the top-end rate? in other words, 35 to 39.6, would you support a tax increase but only as boehner would like to do through the reductions or deductions, or are you fixed to that rate? >> well, i think we're fixed too much on this issue because it's only a small piece. even if you do the increase on the people above $250,000, it's a long way from solving the full problem. i'm a simpson-bowles guy myself in the sense that i think there's got to be an across-the-board settlement. so i think what you're really talking about is a temporary soluti
as bill clinton would say, it's arithmetic. nothing is going to get done unless we find a way to work together. and i'll tell you, the public has just had it. well, you know, the approval rating of congress is in single digits. it's pretty awful. and it's all about, in my view, the inability to simply sit down and solve some of these problems. >> senator, quick question, brian sullivan from cnbc here. would you support a fiscal cliff resolution on taxes that did not involve an elevation...